Timeline for How is the community doing? [2017]
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| Apr 27, 2017 at 20:57 | comment | added | KorvinStarmast | while I am glad I missed all of the drama, someone telling you that you don't know math boggles my mind. chin drop | |
| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:45 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Apr 12, 2017 at 10:18 | comment | added | user27327 | @thedarkwanderer I feel like all the things you cited about drive-by voting happened in the linked question. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 17:44 | comment | added | SevenSidedDie Mod | Yes, please do flag that kind of thing proactively! Hostile commenting is something we might not visibly act on right now beyond deleting the comment, but we do want to keep track of it — if it's part of a pattern, we want to have a paper trail we can refer to later if we do need to intervene more directly with a user. Flags create “bookmarks” that we can look at later, so that we can review and see if there's a pattern or not, and what direction it's going in. (Flags aren't inherently black marks, so don't worry about hurting anyone with them. They just create a reminder for us.) | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 17:08 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | If you flame early, drive-bys vote down. I'm not saying people should flame, drive by vote on stuff they aren't qualified to judge, or post answers on things they know nothing about that assume the querent is stupid, I'm just saying that these behaviors are self-reinforcing so it's easy to get sucked into this anti-pattern because incrementally the more emotionally aggressive your comments are the better they are received by the community, and the higher your rep goes. Simultaneously, the more LMGTFY your answer is the better it does in drive by voting. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 17:05 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | I believe the problem is drive-by voting. Someone posts something offensively wrong (like you ask about the complexities of a rule in a given situation and someone throws the top result of google at you as if you hadn't already looked at that, while disclaiming that they know nothing about the system) and then within seconds it's getting upvotes because ???. If you post a 'actually that's not how this works' comment it's too late and that question is forever ruined on this site because the answer's already too upvoted to lose and will forever influence drive-by voting... | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 17:02 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | This has been happening more often recently, by a significant margin. I used to be able to count on other users helping me with not doing this to each other when we disagree (and those specific users I still can), but now more and more I find myself either in a fight like this or the only party to a forming fight not investing. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 15:54 | comment | added | mxyzplk Mod | Sure. In discussions like this we need to reinforce points for everyone and not just the poster, so I wanted to reiterate it. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 15:49 | comment | added | user27327 | @mxyzplk I'm aware of the difference. I made sure to say I'm happy to accept down votes in my answers, which I hoped would highlight that I welcome people to disagree with me, even if down votes decrease my rep and my answer's visibility. That moment to flag has come and gone. The more bitter part of the ordeal was the hostility, rather than the lack of initiative on my part to flag. I'm just putting it out there, this stuff still happens (my impression from other answers: it used to happen a lot). | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 15:39 | comment | added | mxyzplk Mod | Yeah, we come and clean up arguments when they're flagged... So flag, "waiting" means you're waiting for someone else to do it. Now of course we don't always delete all comments, upvoted ones may stand even if they disagree with you, and note "unconstructive" and "disagrees with you" are different. "You don't understand math" is certainly not constructive, I'm just making sure to say there's a difference. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 14:55 | comment | added | doppelgreener | Something to take into consideration in the future. I'm sorry to hear you went through that experience, and I'd definitely suggest being more liberal with flagging in the future. Something that personally distresses you is at the very least worth a custom moderator attention flag asking for intervention or for moderators to take a look at something that might be over the line or getting out of hand. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 14:46 | comment | added | user27327 | @doppelgreener I have never flagged anything. I know you get a badge for that, but if you look through my profile, you'll surely not find I have it. So my reaction to this was not to flag but to wait until the mods come and clean it up. I knew they would, as SSD deleted a long argument between me and Szega (as well as many other people who seem to have been drawn in by this). If memory serves, it's after the first comment deletion that the nastier comments got posted; so I let the mods handle it as it was apparent to me they would. In hindsight, I wish I had flagged. But now I cant. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 14:24 | comment | added | doppelgreener | Thinking on the way you put that last paragraph, flags probably more or less are the downvote button. Is the comment providing an actionable suggestion for improvement or request for clarification? It's probably a useful comment. Is it doing nothing useful? It's noise, and can be flagged for removal. A comment suggesting one doesn't understand math is an unnecessarily derisive thing to say even in constructive feedback, and I would've been inclined to flag it for removal in violation of our Be Nice policy. | |
| Apr 11, 2017 at 14:15 | history | answered | user27327 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |