I'm going to write with a basic premise:
- MYFAROG's content is unquestionably horrible and neither this question nor its answer are concerned with whether that's the case — we can consider that settled. So far the only defenses we've seen here of the game's content itself have been based on defending it sight-unseen, and we all know that arriving at a conclusion by starting with assuming it's true is just noise.
You don't have to accept that premise. That's just square one based on what I know about the game and it's not possible for me to write as if that's not fundamental to the game.
Free speech is a bugbear — it is not relevant
There's another premise, actually. This one takes more words, because so many people misunderstand how this stuff works and how it relates to a site like RPG.se. This is here because we've already seen some reflexive defenses of MYFAROG based on no knowledge of the game; it's also here because inevitably someone brings up free speech as if it's the only thing that matters in discussions about whether a kind of content should be permitted.
Free speech 101: if you're not the government and control people's lives — in a literal 24/7 life-and-death way — you are not responsible for granting the ability for people to exercise free speech rights. Free speech is between a citizen and their government, not some website among billions and the troll (or whatever) who wants to write there.
There is no free speech principle to stand up for here. It doesn't apply and doesn't compel us to permit things, when faced with a weight of reasons not to. It doesn't apply because RPG.se is not an exclusive platform, and we cannot compel people to silence — we don't control all communication methods or speaker's bodies in a way that could take away their ability to speak their views. Having no absolute power over people, we cannot violate their free speech rights.
And no, we're not going to locally champion free speech anyway and import it into the site's working principles, for some undefined “but free speech is good” reason. We're not a public utility — posting here is a privilege that people earn by contributing constructively and not behaving badly. Nobody is owed our cooperation with using this site to say or do whatever they want. We regularly prevent people from doing whatever they want, because the site would be crushed under the weight of that burden otherwise. The site is too small and too not-the-whole-darn-world to support or be required to support anything and everything someone might want to post on it.
In other words, just because what you want to say is not literally illegal doesn't mean you get to say it here.
So that's not really touching on MYFAROG's current impact on our site at the moment, but it's a fundamental piece that needs to be laid down, otherwise “but my free speech!” is going to keep (irrelevantly) being brought up as if it's the end of any possible discussion of what we should do about games like it. It's not the final word here, and isn't even a minimally relevant word here.
The problem of association
You know the quality of a person by the friends they keep. That's true too of a community. What a community accepts into itself speaks very loudly about what the community is.
There are good people who will have nothing to do with RPG.se if RPG.se has questions about a game that actively calls for the death of themselves, their family, or their friends. There are other good people who are not personally targeted by MYFAROG who will have nothing to do with a site that visibly welcomes questions about a game that calls for real-world genocide.
Do we want to look and be welcoming to
revolting bigots who like everything in MYFAROG
the vanishingly rare person who plays MYFAROG but subverts it (there are only like 200 copies in existence, so we're talking on the order of ones or low tens of “good” MYFAROG “fans”)
… in exchange for encouraging
- a large number of people who have problems being anywhere near group (1)
to stay away from or leave RPG.se?
In straight exchange, that seems like a really bad trade. Considering we're custodians of a privately-offered service and not only not obliged to host all speech, but actually required to reject all kinds of innocuous speech (too-chatty comments, off topic questions, etc.), let alone bigoted speech, that seems like a really bad trade. Standing up for inapplicable principles of free speech just to make our site worse is not what SE handed all of us, the community, self-rule for.
The problem of the actual questions
The actual questions here have a side problem: they're not actually about MYFAROG. MYFAROG is just background context, provided so that people know what kind of game the actual problems are operating within. One is a question about recovering from messing up a campaign development and the other is about a player wanting to know things that might not be their business. Neither is a problem with any part of MYFAROG — which is what tags are supposed to be for.
Ironically, it looks like part of the community's indecision about this game's presence on our site (I know it has been part of mine) is that the questions are themselves not even about MYFAROG — no part of MYFAROG is actually in them, and the game is just mentioned in passing. They're relatively innocuous, generally-applicable questions.
Not being about the game, we don't actually have any obvious case of the game's awfulness coming to RPG.se. We're concerned about its presence, but its presence is mostly an artifact of not cleaning up the questions in the first place.
What I'm doing right now
I'm not banning the game (that would be rather unilateral, anyway). I'm not closing the questions.
I am going to remove the tag from both questions, though — by normal principles of how to use tags, they don't belong there.
I'm going to blank its wiki too, so that it decays and is removed from the site. We have no questions about MYFAROG here yet, and therefore we have no tag for it either.
I am also going to unlink the MYFAROG site from the questions, because even the questions' author says you should ignore the official web presence of the game and its author if you want to subvert it and extract anything decent from the text itself. We have no need to gratuitously link to hate speech, so let's not, eh? The link didn't even help educate answerers, who just assumed what they wanted about the game anyway when forming their advice. We'll be better without it.
The name of the game is also not super relevant to the questions, so I'm removing it too. Normally we like system-agnostic questions to mention the game being played at least in passing, so that we have that context, but in this case not being associated with White Nationalist Calls To Real Violence is probably enough of an upside to balance removing that bit of convenience. (Not that it was actually a meaningful convenience! Nobody answering has apparently used that information to inform their question anyway, based on the numerous comments I had to leave explaining that their answer's assumption about how the book is organised were mistaken.) In the first question the game is super not relevant, because it's entirely about a homebrew setting. In the second question the game is only slightly relevant because of the way the book is organised, but see the recent parenthetical.
Effectively, I am kicking the can down the road: MYFAROG has't really yet come to RPG.se in a way that RPG.se inherently doesn't tolerate, so we're working (badly) with a hypothetical. If MYFAROG itself got some questions, we'd have more to work with and we'd probably have an easier time coming to a consensus about how to handle it, based on real MYFAROG game and content questions. We might not even need a conversation — if the awful MYFAROG content came here, normal procedures of “nope, this post violates our code of conduct and has been fired into the sun” would take care of it without any need for discussion.
Let's discuss the situation when it's less hypothetical, and pray that it never is.
I'm still not super happy with the game even being asked about without the name or link or tag, because of the Problem of Association, but getting rid of gratuitous connections between us and it is still a big improvement in the Not Associating With a White Nationalist Teaching Game metric.
(I'm also not super happy with having just… expunged… a game from the site. The different responsibilities and perspectives of the moderation role are often in tension with each other. I think that I'm only OK with it — on balance — because they're not irreversible or nuclear actions, and they're reasonable on their own to do. Still, wary discomfort is my companion from both ends of this thing.)
Yes, this is a half measure. This answer is less “this is what we should do” as, “this is why it's a problem”, and a note that I'm making some overdue corrections to the posts in a way that almost incidentally significantly remove MYFAROG's real presence here. Most of this should have been done as a routine question-cleanup when I saw the first one, but I didn't because I was too busy being alarmed by the appearance of MYFAROG — so, my bad.