# Is Heroes and Dragons the same thing as D&D 5e in terms of system tagging?

This question came up and during a discussion, it came up that it wasn't exactly 5e that was being played.

The game itself is Heroes and Dragons with more specific rules found here. Fundamentally, it seems based off of D&D 5e's SRD (translated into French), but has been expanded and is it's own thing.

I'm fairly certain that because it's based on the 5e SRD this is legal and fine, but I want to verify that as well as determine which system the question should be tagged with.

It currently is tagged with 5e as that is the 'core' system, but it's not the system itself.

1. Should we tag to 5e because that's what OP is asking us to use in determining homebrew balance? Or should we tag to the actual game?

2. Can we tag/link to this as a legal game?

• It may be worth noting that part of the "based off of 5e" is translation of the system into french, which may cause a language barrier for some users (myself included). – Someone_Evil Jul 22 '19 at 17:00
• I see 5e has been added in twice now by a current and ex mod. I'm not going to edit war it back out, but I'm not sure I agree it goes in there, especially since it seems like this isn't a 5e question... But I guess it kinda is. No big deal either way :) – NautArch Jul 22 '19 at 18:36
• Specifically, the game is titled "Héros & Dragons" (it's in French). Should we have the tag name be the English translation (with the original French name as a synonym), or leave it untranslated (with the English translation as a synonym)? I suppose it's also worth considering that accent marks (e.g. the acute accent mark in "Héros") can't be used in tags. – V2Blast Jul 22 '19 at 19:32
• @V2Blast Excellent point. Not sure how we've handled foreign language game systems before. But seems like either heros-et-dragons or heroes-and-dragons would be preferable. – NautArch Jul 22 '19 at 19:40
• We have a [the-dark-eye] tag and if I understand correctly that game is called "Das Schwarze Auge" in its original form. It does have a "The Dark Eye" English version released. I'm not aware of an English version of "Héros & Dragons". – Sdjz Jul 23 '19 at 13:53

A fork is its own thing, whatever its relationship is to the original base. It should be tagged . I note that, like D&D itself, Heroes & Dragons uses the ampersand rather than the word “and,” which might be more accurately rendered as -n- in our tagging system since ampersands are not allowed in that context for technical reasons, but since we use rather than it’s probably better to spell it out here.