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Sorry, that was my fault. This is an unfortunate side effect of the way flag handling works on the mod side. What happened there is that it was flagged VLQ… and also flagged Not An Answer, which wasn't a valid flag. Declining the one NAA flag declined both flags. So apologies for the confusing feedback. Your flag was correct, and you just got caught up with ...


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Now that I've served as an elected mod and seen the tools... Flag them all. This post is all about moderators' workflow, so I'm going to get a little into the weeds, here: When you cast a flag (on anything) it increments an easy-to-see counter on our topbar, the same way you used to see a count on a red background indicating items in the Review Queues. ...


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It’s corporate boilerplate, yes, but it’s not wrong either. We do take flags seriously — we consider each one on its merits and on its context and take appropriate action. Whether someone gets in trouble for what they wrote is part of “appropriate action”. Taking care of comments that aren’t needed anymore doesn’t get anyone in trouble; taking care of foul ...


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That was me. Sorry about the mix-up. When I received your flags I looked over the situation. I thought it was still a developing situation, which means the comments would need to stay. I dismissed the flags. (The only option we get for comment flags is to delete the comments or dismiss the flag — there is no “mark helpful but do nothing”.) ... Then I ...


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Jonathan Hobbs covers the general stuff well, but doesn't mention why there are such a dearth of migration options for flag-privilege users. Basically, StackExchange hates question migration. There's good reason for the hate. Often, questions are off topic because they're about the wrong subject, but they're also off topic on the target site. In the past ...


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I think the flag was declined automatically as a side-effect of the close vote queue. There's a general helpful/declined confusion FAQ (which I found as a result of this exact issue being reported before). From that FAQ, one way for this to happen is this: If your flag was a recommend closure flag, if it receives three "do not close" responses in the ...


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For obsolete or too-chatty messages, you can flag one with a custom flag describing which ones need attention, or flag them each individually — whichever is more convenient for you. (That includes “selfishly” individually flagging comments because “I want more helpful flags!” — after all, you are identifying multiple comments that you think need attention.) ...


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We expect answers to be independent — after all, the other answer might get deleted, or changed, or buried in a long list of other answers, and it's not useful to force readers to search just to understand a new answer. (For more, see the FAQ Should I be requesting people answer the question independently?) Flagging is probably unnecessary. You can take ...


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Based on your question on main this seems to be part of a pattern of responses you're seeing criticising your choice of game. It looks like you feel harassed and that's pretty understandable. RPG.SE has a firm goal of not facilitating edition wars or playstyle wars or wars about which games suck and which don't. Not having all the arguments you see in other ...


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The totally generic "this is just generally off topic" close reason is already accounted for. Those of us with the privilege to cast close votes get this handy option for a close reason: ... and we get to say basically anything in there, then cast the close vote. What we write in there becomes a comment on the question, and becomes an actual close reason ...


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Yes, the new flags end up working differently, being used differently, and giving us different immediate1 information. From what I've seen this is mostly positive though. The purpose of the change as I understand it was to make it easier for flaggers to tell which flag to use, and for mods to be able to understand faster why a comment was flagged. It seems ...


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I declined that flag. It may be low quality, but it is a sincere attempt to answer the question, which makes the not-an-answer flag not apply to it. Consider: “What was that noise?” “Could it have been a wolf?” — this reply is an answer, not a request for clarification or a separate question, even if it may have a question mark on it. It has an ...


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Once comments are actioned they should be removed. Comments are temporary "Post-It" notes and we don't keep them around longer than we need them. If a comment requesting clarification or suggesting improvement has been actioned, flag it as No Longer Needed. If you left the comment and it's been actioned, delete it yourself. There's no need to upvote the ...


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If an answer repeats another answer, that's fine--sometimes there's more than one way to say the same thing, and maybe a later user has a more cogent way to express the concept. If an answer relies on another answer and would be incomplete if the referred-to post is removed, that's a problem and should be responded to with commenting, voting, editing, ...


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Comments should be deleted (or flagged for deletion) only when they are no longer relevant. Once requests for clarification or correction are addressed by the post author, by incorporating or rejecting them, those comments often become obsolete. However, comments are a multi-axis thing. Upvotes count. If there is a comment with a needed clarification or ...


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I declined the flag. In hindsight I ought to have not done so and instead left it to community review. There were two things on my mind. First, I'd been thinking about homebrew review questions all day because of some conversations in chat, and I was probably internally thinking “this is a review therefore a sincere answer, even if it may be a bad answer.” ...


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Larger sites deal with a high count of review items on a regular basis and it works, because no single user is responsible for reviewing the whole queue and the system is built with that in mind. Reviewers can just take bites out of it, and bow out when decision fatigue rears its head. Pressing Skip when at all unsure helps a lot in that regard, too. Others ...


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Flags and Flag Handling As for the flag, I don't know in this specific case because I didn't handle it (I was the flag-ee), but I usually decline flags on stuff that's deleted already. Deleted items are meant to be deleted and they appear just for change-history, they're not "Q&A just for high rep users." Not sure what the value would ever be except ...


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I'm the one who put those questions into the close vote queue, so I figured I should say my piece. There were game-recs and other old questions there, and I didn't dump them in from search. I'll get back to that. If you find it so annoying to deal with, I encourage you to leave the review queue alone at those times. There's plenty of other people to cover ...


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For my part, edition warring here is something I take a dim view of — someone can blog or tweet about how edition X sucks and that's fine in their own space, but in a RPG community it's quickly toxic. I would process either rude or no-longer-needed (NLN) flags, unless someone's being really nice about it. Safest is NLN for the variety of mods, but do flag ...


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In general, comments expressing appreciation/praise for an answer don't need to be cleaned up in the way that the following types of comments do: asking clarifying questions (that have been answered) suggesting improvements to the answer (and having those suggestions either accepted or rejected by the answerer) disagreeing with the answerer (and having the ...


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Yeah, that's a bit confusing. Mods are only human though, and they might have had a change of mind after dealing with your flag. Also, there are three of them — it could have been two different mods dealing with the flag and the closure, and mods don't always 100% agree with each other. There's nothing to worry about though: declined flags aren't some kind ...


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Yeah, so in general there's no fixed answer to this. SSD has identified the issue that happened with this exact answer - it showed up with a NAA flag that got declined - but in general, VLQ gets processed by either: Random reviewers in the review queue, in which case the answer is "whatever they think" A mod, in which case it's "whatever they think." I ...


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I took a look at the timeline of the post to see what happened. It was declined automatically when the review queue vote result ended up as “Leave Open” (by 3 to 1). Your flag recommended it for duplication, but the reviewers disagreed. That ended the recommendation with a “decline.” Later a user with a gold badge closed it as a duplicate. Though the ...


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Just to throw a fourth answer in there, I might have flagged that as "not constructive," on the theory that it's a tiny stub of a badly-executed frame challenge in a comment, rather than in an answer post. As it's not seeking clarification/improvement for the post to which it's attached, it's noise. That's Not Constructive. If the commenter's point is ...


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Offensive flags should be used for patently offensive. I don't intend to take the time to find out the rich history behind an offensive flag, if it's clearly offensive I'll uphold the flag but if it's not I'll decline it, because some people like to use offensive flags as part of a turf war with others and I don't think much of that. So offensive = patently ...


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Comments should be deleted (or flagged for deletion) only when they are no longer relevant. There is no specific timeline for that. Here are a few examples of applying that principle: If the comment asked for clarification and it was given, then it should be removed. If it asks for clarification and the issue still exists, it should not. Sometimes there is ...


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At the time of the flag the answer had a comment (from me) requesting the user expand the answer, and very little time had passed. The community of users able to vote for deletion had not cast any votes to delete it, and there were no spam flags. The non-mod community has tools to handle this too, and so far hadn't seen the need to. If the poster doesn't ...


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In my eyes, this is a valid concern: I often do go through my posts and then correct stuff based on comments, which I subequently flagged as obsoltete, and soon were removed. With the new system putting the "Chatty" and the "Obsolete" together, it might create an overwhelming number of "Chatty/Obsolete" tags for some of those that used to get tons of ...


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I would say there are many reasons but the most likely is purely a numbers game. This looks like non-linear growth with step changes. The non-linear nature I would put down to number of users reviewing * number of questions * number answers, all of which should be steadily increasing on a healthy SE site. I would put the steps down to singular events, ...


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