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What to do? From my perspective, the moderators should do less. A lot less. The site is fine. It attracts a reasonable amount of quality questions and answers. The next time someone posts an off-topic question and a moderators sees it? Let it slip. Wait 8 hours. By then, the community might have already policed it. And if not, the moderators still can. The ...


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I believe changes to scores in policy metas should be observed as reflecting the ongoing, developing will of the community. Leaving these metas open and unlocked is useful for gauging that will, and I believe it's important for telling us when we need to take another look at something and have another discussion about it. I'll get to a generalised proposal ...


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Curate, update, and consolidate existing list into one article What I always intended for that list was to consolidate all of what it had collected into a single large post with a more natural ordering. The votes were always intended more as a peer check that a given site mattered, was worth including, and was well described. I feel the votes have outlived ...


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I wrote a long response to this, and I might post it later, but it needs a lot of editing before I'm ready to post it. However, as I wrote it, I really started to think about what's actionable in all of this. And really I think the problem is one of trust, and in order to rebuild trust we need a commitment both from the users and the moderators to work ...


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I'm going to play the other side of much recent meta-action for a moment: We tapped three of our most-active users to moderate. So all of their actions now carry a diamond. I don't think we want to still their voices--either procedurally or just through pressure--just because they're now diamond-certified. The same actions they'd always taken now carry a ...


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Answering the individual questions Note that these "answers" are informal and reflect what I have seen occur in the past with these types of situations; they do not reflect what has always happened or will always happen, only what I would call the "typical" results: Is there any kind of official guidelines that govern policies? Aside from ...


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Policing questions before a community gets to see them, discouraging questions in comments by deleting them and jumping in before the automatic chat function kicks in. So my gripe is when a mod decides to police a question being asked before the community even gets on top of it. I posted a question very recently that already had two upvotes before the ...


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Overall SE Norms So here's the deal - I think that this impression is caused by a mix of not really having visibility into what actually caused a given instance of moderator intervention (frequently it's flag driven, but there's no way for you to see that) and also a misunderstanding of what the limits of mod exception-handling should be. Let me offer up a ...


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Once a re-re-revisit is posted, lock it for a week. This lets people draft up answers and prevents things like Fastest Gun In The West. It means that there will be an exact time at which the question will be unlocked and answers can then be posted at roughly the same time. People will probably have free time somewhere within a week to draft an answer, so ...


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This is endemic to the online community, and it's about sending and receiving messages in the text based format. I made an error in an answer very early on as I was taking notes. I then went about six steps into a supporting point, having built upon a foundation of sand, and made the answer. As I was puzzling over some down votes, and edited it a few ...


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Wait an arbitrary (at least a month) amount of time until a clear winner emerges Obviously, having voting end after a day or two is nonsense. Some people, who are active community members and have seen DGtS and formed opinions on it as it applies to this site, are not active every single day, or even each week. I suggest at least a month of time (which is ...


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They’re not really duplicates. Just looking at the two question posts, the “revisit” is a terrible candidate for the Q part of “FAQ”: it’s long and detailed and not asking the direct question the FAQ should be about. It’s really more a meta-meta discussion opener than a FAQ. Since there’s no change in stance, and there’s no improvement offered by the later ...


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I don't think we workshop questions often enough to warrant a dedicated thread The advantage to having a question workshop thread as I see it is if it is already done a lot and you need to condense it so as to not drown out other meta activity. We aren't exactly at risk of that happening at the moment. And doing it without there being a major need won't ...


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On second thought... is this important? Don’t Guess the System is almost certainly due for a revisit regardless, and not only is it the only example of this that we have—it’s also just about the only conceivable controversy where this would even be a concern. We simply don’t have policies as described in the question for much of anything—all of it is either ...


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FAQ Index for RPGSE We have an FAQ! It's full of questions tagged faq! It links to a couple-dozen excellent metas that cover a lot of situations users ask questions about!


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It was a hack You'll find this covered in that question (and in the comments below), but to reiterate; We decided that the Revisit should be locked for a week before allowing answers. The decision to "lock" was based on the assumption that the Wiki Answer lock only prevents answers, but on further investigation it also prevents votes and comments. ...


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There isn't a formal process beyond just proposing it. Meta is the place for “users to communicate with each other about Role-playing Games Stack Exchange (asking questions about how the websites work, or about policies and community decisions)”. Asking questions about policy, making proposals, participating in discussions of policy — that's how policy is ...


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Deprecate the forum list and start a new one Arguments for this course of action are presented in the question, I won't repeat them here. Here are the concrete steps I would take: Create a new forum list post Insert a deprecation notice in the old forum list and close it as a duplicate of the new one Repopulate with new answers as well as answers from the ...


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If you want to address a specific point from the check-in, you would open a Meta discussion on that specific point. With an eye towards what would be different about your new Meta if one exists on the same topic already (and it almost inevitably does).


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How shall we frame our upcoming revisit...? With an eye toward the actual stakes. Frankly, which way we end up going with DGtS isn't a huge matter for site health. Montagues argue that one way of handling it causes net good for the site while Capulets argue that's a net harm. If we change the practice those will swap. (I'm a Montague, by the way. Forrealz: ...


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No Meta is specifically for discussing site operations, it's not a main site where the rules don't apply. It's counterintuitive except for site insiders that anything besides site business would be happening here, and it certainly doesn't make use of our format well (the reason it wouldn't be done on the main site either). Maybe instead start a LFG chat ...


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There is no formal process. Something gets put on meta and if someone thinks it'd possibly be meaningful enough to be in the FAQ, it gets tagged with [faq-proposal] either at first or later on via normal Marquess of Queensbury editing rules. Votes and/or discussion happen. When the mods are satisfied that it's now a [faq], we make it a [faq] by changing ...


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The reputation on Meta is only updated once an hour. See for example My “Meta” rep on Photo.SE differs from my main rep on MSE. The highest answer links to "What is Meta?" in the Help Center, which states (emphasis mine): Votes on meta do not affect your reputation; your meta reputation is the same as your reputation on Stack Overflow (synchronized ...


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Meta is for questions about the site itself In the Help Centre we have the article What is "meta"? How does it work?. (It's in the “Our model” list, visible if you click “View more”. It starts: Meta Role-playing Games Stack Exchange is the part of the site where users discuss the workings and policies of RPG Stack Exchange rather than discussing role-...


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Often, a question is improved through feedback given in comments. In this case, the context of the change is clear, since it's right there in the comments next to the question. In light of that, perhaps a solution to the problem would be to post the gist of a Chat discussion as a comment, to have the summary next to the question. Of course, this isn't ...


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FAQ Index for Role-playing Games Stack Exchange is our local (meta.rpg.se) FAQ. (It's basically an organized list of all the meta questions tagged faq.) Here's the rpg.se Help Center: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/help. It can be found in the speech-bubble dropdown menu at top right of the site, or in the site footer. Note that that's pretty-much ...


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I think this is very much an important subject. I also think that trying to raise it at this point—when we have only one example of the problem, and it’s this example, and that example is very much currently unresolved—is simply not going to work. The arguments are not going to be appropriately separated from the specific example; the highest-rated existing ...


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Usually a meta is pretty effective, whether it needs community attention or diamond moderator attention. Flag the thing if it needs diamond moderator attention. If it's something regular members can do, you may want to just go ahead and do the thing yourself. Poke people in RPG General Chat. An example of that first one: in 2014, well before I was a ...


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This meta site is for many things, including (but not limited to) the following: Asking about content on our main site, Role-playing Games Stack Exchange (RPG.SE) Discussing policies for using the main site, such as how to (and how not to) ask, edit, tag, and answer questions Polling feedback from the site moderators and active users Asking about using the ...


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