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This is gonna be long. You've asked some very important, very complex questions and I'll try to do them justice--but you don't have to take my word for it. As we get deeper into the material I'll be offering links to references, histories, and further explanations of various themes and topics. I highly recommend using those links as jumping-off points for ...


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This topic was initially addressed in the beginning days of the site under How much subjectiveness is OK? but our understanding of this issue and best practices surrounding it have changed somewhat so this is the new normative guidance on RPG.SE and subjective questions. Some, but not all, subjective questions are on topic, and there are rules you need to ...


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Unfortunately you're the second case in recent history of a popular question being dragged afield and closed (Why is one +21 question On Hold when a similar question is ok with +53 votes? discussed the other). An incontrovertible truth of RPG.SE is that we don't do subjective discussion or idea generation. We use Good Subjective, Bad Subjective criteria; a ...


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The good, bad, and ugly of comparison questions can be found analysed in the Gorilla vs. Shark blog post. They can work well as long as you're specific about the scope of the comparison. That tends to mean specifying these facts: What are we comparing, and what are we comparing it to? (You've covered that here.) On what basis are we comparing it? What ...


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I like to refer to the advice about what good answers look like which can be found in (strangely enough) "What types of questions should I avoid asking?" It tells me to: explain “why” and “how” write long, not short, answers use a constructive, fair, and impartial tone share experiences over opinions back up opinion with facts and references Taken together,...


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All that voting means on SE is: Upvote: This answer is useful (unstated: "to me") Downvote: This answer is not useful That usefulness/unusefulness is entirely subjective. People can and do vote based on the content of the answer, its grammar, its political correctness, whether they have a hate-on for the author, etc. I understand and validate your sadness ...


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This answer won't discuss the policy or why we do it, that's well covered elsewhere. It will take the Good Subjective/Bad Subjective policy as gospel and explain how to give Good Subjective answers and Back It Up! specifically. First, per How do we ask and answer subjective questions?: Answering Subjective Questions The blog post Good Subjective, ...


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Too Many Words for a post notice: be concise Let's do some liposuction on the proposed post notice: Answers should be supported using evidence and/or experience. See citation expectations for subjective answers and guidance for subjective answers. Please cite experience (your own or someone else's) to show how your solution worked out in practice. This ...


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I think we'd be open to specific designated "fun" questions as long as people don't suddenly open others and flood us with low qual questions. We could do something like this as part of a specific initiative. How would you propose a charsheet show-off to work, just posting an image of the sheet (probably with a max size, so one person's 6 page char sheet ...


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Your question restated: How should I provide examples of experience as support for my answer? Use an organized packaging method (see below). I'm willing to accept that and edit my answer accordingly, but I can't find a way to do that without - in my opinion - lessening the helpfulness of it. As written, it's not very helpful. It won't be helpful ...


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(Disclaimer: This isn't a definitive statement on what the guidelines on this type of question are, but a statement of what I would like them to be. Upvote/downvote agreement/disagreement accordingly, and if a mod comes along with a more definitive statement, feel free to ignore entirely.) The only change this question needs is a more prominent reminder ...


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My own thoughts: Subjective Questions “Purely” subjective questions are those specifically requesting experience. Also, by special rule, all system-recommendation questions, because “shopping” questions need special care to prevent getting out of hand. All other questions are still somewhat subjective, but that’s the nature of the games we play and the ...


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This question is complicated, because there's a lot of different things going on here. In general, "Why is question X treated different from question Y?" isn't a real good question. Well, they're nearly three years apart, different people participated in each, maybe a mod hadn't drunk coffee that day, etc. Proof by "but but another question did it" is ...


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Because there are a lot of different games and theories of play - too many for an answer to this without narrowing it down more. This question is like asking "How do I know if someone's programming style is good so I can promote them?" Do you not think you'd be met with a cavalcade of "what language? What kind of programming? What's important in your ...


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As mxyzplk points out the criteria for voting is extremely simple, is the answer useful or not. However I think we can put some criteria around when you should vote. Strong indicators that you should upvote are: The answer directly addresses all of the question's criteria. The answer is factually correct. The answer is comprehensive in it's treatment of ...


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I do not like the assumption that answers are not drawing on experience. My experience with being pestered about explicitly certifying that my answer is drawn from my own experience is that I don't like it. That practice has mostly put me off answering questions. Additionally, it has not led to positive interactions with mods or other users. Evidence of ...


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I'm kinda ambivalent about this one. I'm not sure this thread really represents a direct analogy to the Tex.SE "fun" threads. My understanding is that the Tex.SE showcase threads are, in part, about teaching. Each of the answers is implicitly saying "Here is a cool trick I know," or "Let me teach you about writing elegant code." That makes them potentially ...


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Automated warning aside (it's a bit trigger-happy sometimes), it sounds like you'd find a back-and-forth conversation on this topic more fulfilling than the Q&A format the main Stack Exchange site supports. That is, I think the question could be framed so it's appropriate for the Stack, but it'd probably not be the kind of question you want to ask ...


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What is good roleplaying is a matter of taste The reason it's closed is because it can't have objective answers or Good Subjective answers. Any answer to what is "good" roleplaying is, inherently, a matter of taste. Not only is it a matter of taste and therefore completely (not even just primarily) opinion-based, it's also incredibly broad. There are ...


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Speaking for the citation expectations meta I wrote, something seems to have gotten lost in communication. That's on me, I should've made it clearer. Specifically in the second paragraph I say this: You do not need to cite every sentence, but citation of various statements and positions may be expected and requested by your fellow community members. By ...


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Because it's not very good. "Is this good" is a "read my mind" statement. We don't know how the querent operationalises good. We know how we operationalise good and project that onto the querent. Unfortunately, this site's mind-reading attachments are still in alpha, and haven't been pushed out to the general population. Editing the question to be the ...


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The second one is better, if a little tortured and perhaps better broken up into two sentences. Here's the thing. Without any experience cited, you're just some guy giving opinions off the top of their head. "The DM might do X!" Well, the DM might be kidnapped by aliens too. The world is full of people with opinions about situations that they've never ...


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Recommendations imply suitability I think that "objective vs. subjective" is a bit of a red herring. Game recommendations come with an implicit endorsement of suitability for use at the table. That's why they're recommendations, not database queries. It's true that to write a good answer, you need to put the OP's goals and preferences above your own, but ...


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The question, ultimately, is what kind of expert answer are you going to give. There are two kinds of experts: I've done this. This can sometimes be the best kind of expert. The person who's done what you're trying to do and knows how to do it well, or at the very least, knows what didn't work. I've read a lot about this. Also valuable. These are the folks ...


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Moderator proposal: All answers must be supported by citing evidence or experience. Please review our citation expectations for subjective answers, as well as our guidance for asking and answering subjective questions. When recommending a course of action, you should cite experience (either your own, or someone else's) of how your recommended solution has ...


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An advisory rather than a warning This answer could be improved if you were able to cite experience (your own or someone else's) to help users judge whether it fits their situation or not. This post provides excellent advice on how to do so.


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If we're optimizing for expert answers, I can understanding needing some way to prevent sloppy, subjective answers from being submitted when the question sort of "baits" them out. I don't think that's what happened here - I think the question is fine, but the community should be more diligent about downvoting answers that don't meet GS/BS. Observation ...


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I think a small number of questions of this type, reasonably curated, is beneficial. What is the benefit of having them here rather than somewhere else: Build Community. We want out people on this site, thinking about each other, and as a group. Knowing what cool things people have done, helps build a sense of community. Attract Experts. We want ...


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This is an informational post. It’s not a solution. It’s important information that we’ll need to keep in mind to tackle this. The mods don’t like having to police answers. It’s a lot of thankless work that starts arguments in comments and brush fires on Meta. But worse, it doesn’t work. People just keep posting opinions (then arguing that should be allowed)...


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Focus on what the querent wants to ask, even if it means we can't answer it here When we edit an open question we should always be improving the question that OP asked, but we should not be changing the core of the question. Not, at least without explicit confirmation from OP that the changes are agreeable to them. This means that sometimes there is nothing ...


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