Timeline for Are the citation requirements for objective questions not applicable to systems like World of Darkness/Mage the Ascension?
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Dec 18, 2019 at 8:47 | comment | added | user-781943 | @Pleasestopbeingevil Such as? | |
Dec 18, 2019 at 8:46 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | @jgn Of course stating the answer isn't enough, but quotes aren't the only source of support. | |
Dec 18, 2019 at 8:40 | comment | added | user-781943 | The difference isn't that 5e posts are not as sophisticated, it's that the community is so much larger. When asking a question there is a desire to prove that the answer is correct, using quotes. Simply stating the answer is not enough. | |
Dec 13, 2019 at 6:41 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | @Xirema That is a legitimate concern, and a good reason to potentially write differently, but I don't think it should be required in the sense that answers not meeting that bar would be flaggable or something. Instead, I think it is probably more productive to leave a comment being like "what do you mean by X?" or even to post a new question with whatever question the answer has left you with. I also think there a difference between supporting your claims and making your claims accessible; I'm not sure that there's a real need for the support to always be accessible for the answer to be. | |
Dec 13, 2019 at 6:36 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | Not that that's specifically a 3.x question, but, I mean, it kind of is :P | |
Dec 13, 2019 at 6:36 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | @KRyan Yes, absolutely. I think the way we write much of the time (i.e. similarly to the linked answer) just might be part of what is creating an illusion of propriety for some users, e.g. the OP, that leads to other sorts of answers arousing suspiscion, but that is an illusion-- the answers aren't unsupported just because they aren't riddled with q.v.'s and links to pfsrd20 or wherever. Like you say, sometimes the right answer doesn't touch on the sort of stuff that would be link/reference heavy, e.g. rpg.stackexchange.com/a/104170/14848 | |
Dec 12, 2019 at 19:15 | comment | added | Xirema | Or, put another way: looking at the answers Naut cited, a lot of them do fail the "Theory of Mind" test, meaning a reader who only has passing familiarity with the system in question would fail to understand what they're claiming, because the answer is assuming the reader knows more about the system than their answer is willing to explain. If you know the visitor is already an expert, that's not an issue; but as I've opined about other stacks, I think this kind of assumption tends to drive off newer users. It's not necessarily true that only veteran users need to use this site. | |
Dec 12, 2019 at 19:04 | comment | added | Xirema | I think this answer is valid as an observation/explanation of the current status quo, but speaking as someone who has been extremely critical of the ways that other Stacks often assume, expect, or demand that visitors and contributors be experts in whichever subject they intend to ask about, I think I'm going to have difficulty seeing this as a workable justification for why these other subcultures should behave in this manner. | |
Dec 12, 2019 at 18:52 | comment | added | KRyan | To be fair, sometimes even in D&D 3.5e you have to just... rely on the expertise of the writer and the expertise of those voting on the writer. There’s only so much we can do to transfer our knowledge to others via text. A lot of things, especially synthesis, rely on the perspective of knowing about all the things and there’s just no way to give someone else that same perspective. So even in D&D 3.5e, there’s cases where my answers will look quite a lot like those linked here. And while that’s perhaps not ideal, it certainly isn’t “wrong” or a “systemic problem” as suggested in this question | |
Dec 12, 2019 at 18:28 | history | answered | Please stop being evil | CC BY-SA 4.0 |