Timeline for How is the [system-agnostic] tag supposed to be used?
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| Mar 1, 2019 at 2:23 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | @mxyzplk makes sense! I think you've cleared everything up for me. Thanks again. | |
| Mar 1, 2019 at 2:16 | comment | added | mxyzplk Mod | All mention of RAW has been deleted from my answer as it's pointless and derailing. | |
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| Feb 28, 2019 at 21:50 | comment | added | mxyzplk Mod | There's a thousand ways for a question to be bad. We can't engineer a way to avoid all of them on this tag. We can't create a NP-complete ruleset for all question situations, we rely on general guidance and then the wisdom of high rep users for specific cases. What is happening on this site isn't "it's logically impossible to answer your question as system-agnostic." We can handle that as an exception if it does. What happens here is "you said system-agnostic and I don't like it and I'm going to hassle you anyway." That we need guidance for. Guidance is not absolute, here or elsewhere. | |
| Feb 28, 2019 at 20:31 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | @mxyzplk No, I had read that, but I suppose what I am asking is that, in the case of a question that cannot be answered in an s-a context. (eg "How can I speed up character statistics generation?" (marked s-a with no system context given)), it seems that you are saying "No one has to pick a specific system if that's not what they want to ask, and you should not try to make them [even if it means their question will be closed]." Am I missing something? | |
| Feb 28, 2019 at 20:06 | comment | added | mxyzplk Mod | You did not read the next sentence. "If you think they are new and don't understand tags or something you can give them a quick "Hey if you are really just looking for an answer inside system X then you might get better and more relevant answers if you pick that system", but then you should respect their question choice." | |
| Feb 28, 2019 at 20:04 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | I have another question: "Should I keep bothering someone who has declared their question system-agnostic to pick a system? No you should not, it's rude." Isn't this ignoring the cases where someone asks a question which they think is s-a but really cannot be answered as such? For example, we get it a lot where people ask a mechanical question assuming that every system functions like D&D and slap an s-a tag on it and we have to convince them to pick a system to use in order to keep the Q open/answerable. Is it not acceptable in these cases to push for a system? | |
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| Feb 28, 2019 at 14:10 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | I have a point about "But if people are asking for system clarity, and especially if they're closing the question because there isn't one, then it is a legitimate option (as is a system tag)." sys-ag questions that are tagged as such still get closed for want of a system (sometimes explicitly justifiably) and still start debates about whether system is needed or not. Have you observed an advantage of using the tag in this case over just omitting a system tag? I'm not disagreeing with your other points here (I'm still mulling everything over and trying to figure out how things fit together). | |
| Feb 28, 2019 at 13:32 | comment | added | doppelgreener Mod | “As with RAW, you can ask the querent about their intent to clarify, but under no circumstances should you be trolling old questions and changing their system or [system-agnostic] tag unprovoked.” With RAW, we decided that going purely by author intent was bad and went back to basics on it: tags describe the content of the question and we should be able to determine what tags do and don't fit by looking at the question. So this isn't as with RAW, this was as with the old dysfunctional handling of RAW we decided wasn't working. | |
| Feb 28, 2019 at 13:21 | comment | added | VLAZ |
"Q: So, does every question without a system tag need [system-agnostic]?" I'd offer my opinion here but "no". There is this question that is about [game-design], so it's not exactly "system agnostic" but there is no currently recognised system here. Yet it's related to the game system being designed, so it's not agnostic. Therefore, neither a system tag or a system agnostic tag belongs.
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| Feb 28, 2019 at 12:28 | comment | added | nitsua60 Mod | Any chance when you've got a minute you could dig up some examples of great sys-ag questions to link in to your points as examples? I imagine if OP and the people downvoting these answers saw "good" examples of sys-ag beig used it would bolster your arguments above. | |
| Feb 28, 2019 at 7:27 | comment | added | V2Blast | The answer is pretty spot-on. It indicates you're asking "how do I solve this problem in RPGs in general?" rather than "how do I solve this problem in [this system]?" | |
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| Feb 28, 2019 at 3:05 | history | answered | mxyzplkMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |