Timeline for Re-revisiting the "don't guess the system" policy
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| Mar 12, 2020 at 15:50 | comment | added | NathanS | Hence why I mentioned system-agnostic (I didn't include the dash before, so that might have been easily missed); the main purpose of these comments, though, wasn't to advocate for mandatory tags so much as to point out that these policies are trying to make up for a design flaw in the system, which is why we are doomed to argue about them forever... | |
| Mar 12, 2020 at 15:43 | comment | added | Exempt-Medic | @NathanS And, as this answer points out, mandatory system tags would be horrendous. Plenty of questions do not have and certainly do not need a system tag | |
| Mar 12, 2020 at 11:14 | comment | added | NathanS | As it stands, we have no choice but to fall back on trying to use policies to police users into making up for what the SE site/software lacks. Because these policies are "insider baseball" (as mxyz would put it), new users won't know to follow it, and will therefore keep going against it without realising. I can't help but feel like we as a community are doomed to repeat this problem forever, falling back on policies which don't quite work or make sense but are the best/only tool we've got (unless SE caters for this by implementing "mandatory system tags" or similar, which they never will...) | |
| Mar 12, 2020 at 11:12 | comment | added | NathanS | I completely agree with the first part of this answer, it reminds me of the old saying "You can please some people some of the time..."; in other words, this policy will always make some people unhappy. The trouble with the second half is that RPG.SE has a specific need, the need to specify a system, which the SE site/software doesn't support, which is the only reason we need to fall back on policies in the first place. If the software could prevent a question being submitted until you specify a system tag (or system agnostic, whatever), then we wouldn't need any policy or this discussion. | |
| Mar 11, 2020 at 13:46 | comment | added | Someone_Evil Mod | I've posted a question how we want to actually do it here: New ask page: How do we want to use it to help new users specify their system? | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 2:11 | comment | added | nitsua60 Mod | I like your last point and I've seen it be the nexus of plenty of friction: "I'm having a problem where my coffeelock outshines the rest of the party in HotDQ. But I'm sure this sort of thing happens in other systems, so I don't want to say it's a dnd-5e question, I want to get the broadest range of experts answering my question." | |
| Mar 8, 2020 at 15:40 | comment | added | KorvinStarmast | I like your last point the best | |
| Mar 8, 2020 at 12:02 | comment | added | Someone_Evil Mod | I fully support this and the separate meta question it will require is forthcoming. We (or at least I) are waiting on a clarification on the capabilities of the new warnings. If better ask-wizarding works, it should lessen the unspecified-system problem, but it would not solve it. | |
| Mar 8, 2020 at 9:19 | history | edited | Carcer | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 8, 2020 at 3:01 | history | edited | Exempt-Medic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 8, 2020 at 3:00 | comment | added | Exempt-Medic | @Rubik, V2Blast Hopefully I've accounted for what you've mentioned, if not, feel free to mention how. In all honesty, I think I've simply gotten tired of the amount of discussion on this policy and what to do about it or what to do with it. At this point I just want a solution that involves compromise: preventing questions that should have system tags from not having system tags. | |
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| Mar 8, 2020 at 2:49 | history | edited | Exempt-Medic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 7, 2020 at 22:55 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose Mod | Regarding your last point: Check out this comment pointing to this meta. We did actually provide an update on that issue, but the answer at the time was "we can't do anything". Now with the updated ask a question page we might have some options potentially, but we don't yet know the extent. | |
| Mar 7, 2020 at 22:54 | comment | added | V2Blast Mod | It's worth noting that the new ask page that was recently rolled out does allow for a lot more customization (including customizing the text that appears in the popover that appears when the original poster is choosing tags when making the post), though the actual changes currently need to be made by CMs. :) | |
| Mar 7, 2020 at 22:49 | history | answered | Exempt-Medic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |